you are really starting to jump into personal attacks now, it is not appreciated

I guess when you start to be confronted with the truth, you get upset and start attacking. I am sorry about that.
Perhaps you should take the moment to reflect instead of attack, to learn and grow, instead of clinging to ideas and attack anyone who challenges your assertions.

commenting within the text...

>> Not this limitation..not that limitation.
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>Wrong. It's "not this, not this." The meaning is literal. No thing is the Self. Therefore, no thing (including so-called saints) are divine. Or, everything is divine.

I have read text which assert what I wrote. What is your source for your assertions?


>> No, this has nothing to do with "all things being equal."
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>Your misunderstanding is noted.

This reply does not engage the subject matter.

>> This had to do with all things being an illusion, under which there is an Infinite reality...to which we now do not personally have access...
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>More ignorance noted.

This does not engage the subject matter and has an offensive tone.

>We are always the Self, whether or not we are directly aware of this. It has nothing to do with "access", and everything to do with missing something that's been sitting on the end of our noses.

Well, I can provide plenty of writing by saints which assert the opposite of what you are saying here.

>There is no escape from your nature as one with the Self. There is only your belief that you "do not personally have access" that is keeping you from knowing this truth.

That is just a semantical and rhetorical dance from the subject, back to the subject with no intermediary proof, assertions, etc.

Why did Christ fast in the desert if there was no spiritual work to do? Why are monks instructed to work hard at prayer and spiritual disciplines if there is no work to do?


>Also, speak for yourself. I am not included in your "we."

Are you going beyond insults now and into threats? Sounds like you are about to do so.

> Just because you can put something in a rhetorical phrase and construction does not make it true.
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>Just because you have read something does not mean you understand it.

yes, the problem is me, apparently.

> "everything is equally divine or none of it is" - that is just a logical construction....or, let us say, a proposed theorem. Where is the proof that this is so?
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>You have no proof it is otherwise.

You are deflecting this back to me rather than answering yourself. I asked you what your proof was? Do you wish to answer or not?



> A trucker is equal to a ballerina? how so?
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Both are Brahman, equally.

> Well, in some transcendental plane of consciousness, they both have divine souls.

"Transcendental" planes of consciousness have as much to do with the truth of the Self as my dog's ass.

lovely image, thanks...

> But that presumes that one can personally, and directly have the inner vision to perceive this. Just reading about the concept in a book is not enough.
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You're making a great example of this so far.

You say potato, I say potato....you never answer directly when challenged. What do you have to fear?

> And, perfected Yogis have all the 8 Yogic powers, including the ability to walk on water. Unless we have that ability, we have not attained a perfection in which our views are necessarily accurate.
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Your kindergarten notions of truth, based entirely on ridiculous superstitious myth, are sadly noted.

Ah, kindergarten notions now...quite a lovely little attack there. Why not just hire some thug to kill me, wouldn't that be quicker and easier and prove your devotion to Sri Ramakrishna?

> When you write that you are praying for me, it seems to imply that I am lacking in some experience to which you have access.
My spiritual insights have been confirmed by a nationally recognized Zen monk. Have you also been confirmed in this manner?
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Good for you! You must feel that you are really special now!

Where is that coming from? And do you have any degrees in theology or have your experiences been confirmed in any manner...or not?